maaaaan. can a brother get a holler doesnt anyone know anything about Brown? :pimp:

the short answer, it sucks. six years of h$%& and you get a "non-accredited" trauma fellowship. morale was low when i interviewed.

don't know brown, but don't get hung up on accreditation - most fellowships (except spine and hand) are not and it doesn't mean much.

I believe harvardcombined is refering to "fellowships" and not to residencies. You must be in an accredited residency to become board certified.

bone blaster i appreciate the brevity since some of the posts are getting a little long-winded. Having said that do you think you could explain what was so miserable about it there? thanks

yup, my comment was just about the trauma fellowship certificate. residencies have to be accredited.

i was blown away by the facilities and the presentation that they put on for us during the interview day, but then i met the residents. they had a hard time hiding the fact that they weren't exactly happy. then, what sealed the deal was on my interview at tufts. the residents from tufts rotate there for trauma and confirmed my gut feeling that the place is pretty malignant (this was not even tufts trying to sell their program above brown, rather just conversation). so, don't take the hook on the glitzy presentation.

The reality of the situation at Brown is that the program is absolutely not malignant. In fact it is quite the opposite. I transferred here recently and am delighted at the acceleration that is now taking place in my ortho education. The call schedule is completely reasonable. We work hard (and if you don't want to do that - don't do an ortho residency), but it is reasonable. The surgeons coming out of here are more experienced than elsewhere. They do the PGY6 year and grow up quick and learn to trust their skills. Right now there is a PGY2 spot open for next year, and there is a PGY4 spot as well, as the RRC recently expanded our program. Make no mistake. We are treated very well here, and we'd love to see the right candidates join our ranks. Personally I am extremely happy and feel that coming here was among the smartest things I ever did.

It sounds like a great program!! I just don't know if I have a chance there. Can you give us any kind of estimate of what kind of numbers we need? I'm not from a top 10 med school, 230 on step 1, top 1/3 of my class and significant amount of research with a publication and a couple presentaitons. People tell me I have a chance at ortho, but how bout programs like brown? Any advice would be helpful and feel free to be blunt too. Thanks.