By Guest on Tuesday, 20 April 2010
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Hey guys, Been lurking these threads for awhile. Finally decided I should post. I'm from a US school. My step one score was 214. I high passed almost all my rotations besides peds and ob/gyn which i passed. I'm somewhere in the middle of class, probably more closer to the lower half. I love ortho but I know that my step 1 score and grades aren't up to par for ortho. I really can't imagine doing anything else. I was told in order to have a chance that I would need a good step 2 score, >230, and possibly take a year off for research. Is it realistic of me to pursue ortho? If you could actually put it into percentages, what would my chances be? Thanks guys for any help
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Tuesday, 20 April 2010 20:31
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Hey guys, Been lurking these threads for awhile. Finally decided I should post. I'm from a US school. My step one score was 214. I high passed almost all my rotations besides peds and ob/gyn which i passed. I'm somewhere in the middle of class, probably more closer to the lower half. I love ortho but I know that my step 1 score and grades aren't up to par for ortho. I really can't imagine doing anything else. I was told in order to have a chance that I would need a good step 2 score, >230, and possibly take a year off for research. Is it realistic of me to pursue ortho? If you could actually put it into percentages, what would my chances be? Thanks guys for any help
I bolded the key statement above. I don't think you can put something like this in percentages. So much of it seems to be random. In the Match thread here someone posted with a 210 on steps 1 and 2. So you see it is possible. I'd come up with a good backup plan though.
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Tuesday, 20 April 2010 20:32
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Thanks for the responses. I know I stated that i couldn't imagine myself doing anything else but i also need to be realistic. I have a family and I am one of the atypical older medical student. Taking a year off would be pretty rough on my family especially if I don't match. If my chances are slim, I'd rather not put my family through any more hardship then they are already going through. Living on a single person's income is pretty hard as is.
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Tuesday, 20 April 2010 20:43
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My grandpa was a great card player and he always said "A bird in hand is worth two in the bush". If you don't think your chances are reasonable, why would you risk the success/happiness of your kids?? If you "Loooove Ortho" (
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Tuesday, 20 April 2010 22:10
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While I am just a measly applicant, I agree with Merlin that your Q can't really be answered here because you are a unique person with a story that none of us fully know. Objectively...from charting outcomes, more people with a score in your range matched than did not match, so that is comforting. Although we do know that the match is getting more competitive each year, so who knows what the ratio is or will be for our app cycle. Also, from charting outcomes you have a 60% chance of matching with ur score. So both stats are favorable, but that is the best that can be said I guess. And just anecdotally, at my west coast program, my PD said he doesn't look at anything below a 230, unless the student rotates there.
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Wednesday, 21 April 2010 03:14
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To echo the others, my home program cut off is 235, up from 230 last year (damn average score keep creeping up!). Home students and rotators get some what of a break, but not much (~ 5-10 points I would guess from chatting with ad com faculty). Some places ask for your Step 1 when you apply for Sub-Is and reject people that don't meet their cut off. But then again, there are obviously several programs where Step 1 is not as important a criteria because people match every year with lower scores. How do you find these programs? Apply very very broadly and hope you get interviews. But to give you an idea of chances. Of the US seniors this past match who actually got at least one interview in ortho (and therefore ranked at least one ortho program), only ~75% matched into an ortho spot (~600 of 800).
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Wednesday, 21 April 2010 09:35
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