ouortho Registered User Posts: 2 (7/24/01 7:50:26 pm) Reply community-based programs Two questions: 1) Does anyone know of reference material that lists community-based orthopedic residencies? 2) Any opinions on a top 10 list for community-based programs? I'm specifically thinking of the south. Thanks, ouortho Earthdawg Registered User Posts: 2 (7/25/01 6:59:50 pm) Reply Community Programs I'm not big on top ten lists, but certainly considered by many to be one of the premier private programs in the country is Carolinas Medical Center in Charlotte, although it may be difficult to get an interview. Another great program that I visited and ranked highly was Greenville. Other great private programs, not in the South, are the two Akron programs, Mount Carmel in Columbus OH, and Grand Rapids Michigan. UCCOM Registered User Posts: 8 (7/26/01 8:33:35 pm) Reply Re: Community Programs I agree that the two Akron programs are good programs, but I would take Grant in Columbus with a grain of salt. The last time I checked, 90 % of their residents were from Ohio State, not that that is a bad thing, but variety is usually a good thing, keeps the inbreeding down. Also, call all 5 years is home call. NOT that I am opposed to home call one bit, but how much real experience and exposure can you get from home call. One of our senior residents rotated there several years ago and he was underwhelmed. Supposedly there was a pretty bad tibial plateau fx that came in on the residents service and both chiefs were running around showing the films to every attending they could, because no one knew what to do with it. Supposedly we get a fx like that at our program like once a week, and its no problem. Long story to say that you need SOME volume to be comfortable with most fractures. Do you think that you get the same training at Grant with 5 yrs of home call VS 5 yrs of q3 in house call at Temple? Hmmmm. Just my 2 cents BB dbonz Registered User Posts: 5 (7/27/01 8:23:16 am) Reply community ortho Allegheny General Hospital, in Pittsburgh, although not in the south, is a great community program that still maintains an academic feel. There are regular teaching conferences, and a good bit of research, but the real strength is the OR time. PGY 2's are doing 500-600 cases, with at least half as primary surgeon. Ortho3n1 OSRR Newbie Posts: 2 (10/24/01 10:00:43 am) Reply Greenville Program Greenville is my home program and I have nothing but great things to say about it. The residents are great, a nice mixture of personalities but all good guys. They get along well and work as a team. The training is comphrehensive with very early operative experience. The attendings are awesome and the chairman is a great man, very humble and a good teacher. The program is very competitive though. I have heard not from the chairman, but from others that the board score cutoff is 230. I met an attending down in Orlando who just finished his residency from Greenville, and he told me when he was a resident, that Greenville had the highest percentage of validictorians than any other program. Nonetheless, anyone should apply. They house you for the night and give you a great interview experience. Any further questions, feel free to contact me Ortho3n1 OSRR Newbie Posts: 5 (11/5/01 5:46:12 pm) Reply Re: community-based programs I just finished a rotation at Akron General and loved it. To tell you the truth, I didn't find many differences among the three community based programs I rotated at which were Orlando, Greenville, and Akron. All the residents at each program were great, they loved their life, got along well with each other, and felt they received a well-balanced training. All of them seem to operate really early, but I think Akron operated a little more at an earlier time than the other two. The Akron curriculum was unique, instead of block rotations in spine, sports, tumor, joints, etc, you rotated in two teams and incorporated all the specialties while on that service. It allows you to learn the various specialties throughout your training, and you pick up more and more as you progress in the years. From what I saw, it works great for the residents and they work well together to allow everyone to have similar operative experiences and not one person hog the good cases. Plus, the programs average OITE scores speak for themselves, they are consistently at the 99%. To summarize, it is a strong program, well-balanced, early operative experience, awesome attendings. One additional comment that is differenct about Akron than the others is that of all programs that look for a particular fit for their residents, Akron it exceptionally particular. I found that you have to be REAL laid back and not be the easily offended type because if you are not comfortable there, dont fake it because they will see right through you, so just be yourself at the interview. For any additional information about Akron, Greenville, or Orlando from a rotating student's perspective, feel free to email me at trinitypilkington@yahoo.com