Post Interview Contact

[abcd1234]

yes

[skullandbones]

When-ish did that Utah call come in? This week? Last week?

[Badtothe]

Anyone willing to speculate how deep certain tiers usually go on their rank list to fill their class? Are "top tier" programs usually filling within a spots of their ranked to match group?

Thanks.

[orthoguy123]

Anyone willing to speculate how deep certain tiers usually go on their rank list to fill their class? Are "top tier" programs usually filling within a spots of their ranked to match group?

Thanks.

According to what I heard on the interview trail and at away rotations, it sounds like the top tier programs go between 1.5-2X the number of residency spots available to fill their programs. This information is coming from residents at these programs.
i.e. A program of 6 goes to about 9-12. A program of 8 goes to about 12-16.

Less competitive programs obviously go even deeper to fill their program. I was told by a low tier program in the Midwest (by the PD) that has 4 spots available that it will often go to the upper teens to low 20's to get their residents.

Anyone hear similar or different things?

[EagerBeaver]

That sounds pretty reasonable. The only exception I can think of is the program that wants you to say they are number 1 before they will consider ranking you to match.

With regards to the importance of the "ranked to match" calls/emails, do you think they call 12-16 people (assuming a class size of eight) or that they just call their top 8? Do you think it is generally a kiss of death from a program (eg Case or Utah) to not have received a call?

[orthoguy123]

With regards to the importance of the "ranked to match" calls/emails, do you think they call 12-16 people (assuming a class size of eight) or that they just call their top 8? Do you think it is generally a kiss of death from a program (eg Case or Utah) to not have received a call?

I'm betting they call MORE than the number of residency spots they have available. They can't assume everyone that they call will be ranking them #1. So, while it is still possible to match at a place that calls highly ranked applicants, the odds are probably tipped towards less likely.

[gk1]

So I guess this interpretation of "ranked to match" is a different interpretation than what abcd1234 mentioned earlier...meaning that just because you received a "ranked to match" phone call DOES NOT mean that you are guaranteed to match at that program, even if you ranked it #1? I guess this is what my question was earlier...is "ranked to match" meaning that if the program has say 4 positions, do they only call their top 4 people and say you are "ranked to match" or do they call 2X the number of people than they have residency positions, knowing that they typically need that number of people to fill their residency positions?

[EagerBeaver]

Let's say a program has 4 spots and normally goes to 12 applicants to get there. If you are ranked number 10 on the list this year, the program could call you and honestly say that based on previous years, you are "ranked to match". If this year they only go to number 9 to fill the 4 spots, you're SOL. They weren't lying when they said that you were ranked to match, but "ranked to match" is certainly not a guarantee. It sounds like Utah called the Top 5 applicants for 5 spots, so there it was a guarantee.

[orthoguy123]

I'm guessing some programs only call the same number of applicants that they have positions. But I bet there are just as many programs that call more applicants than they have positions. We will never actually know which programs those are, unfortunately.

[almostbonedoc]

Can anyone enlighten us as to what the HSS email sent yesterday morning said please?

[orthoguy123]

In case you missed it, here is the list of schools who have contacted applicants:

Utah
Rush
UMKC
HSS

I think applicants can still expect to hear from Pitt and Case. Others?

Looks like Mayo USED to contacts folks, not sure they do anymore (looking at last year's thread).

[Jeeper95]

If I were an applicant reading this I wouldn't believe anyone saying they have heard from a program since interviews. Last year someone was on here saying they had heard our program had called them after interviews to say they were ranked to match and that was simply not true since our program does not make those phone calls. As far as the list of this year's supposed phone calls go, last year Utah was VERY clear during the interview day presentations that there was to be no post-interview contact, not from them and not from the applicants. So I'd be very surprised if they have now begun calling people after being so admitantly opposed to it last year. I'm only posting this because the posts last year regarding the program I'm now at made one of my classmates very nervous about his prospects to match here and guess what, we're both here and never received a phone call, neither did anyone else in our class.

I know this is a way for you guys to blow off the nervous energy while awaiting the big day, I certainly spent way more time on this site than I should have last year, just try not to get too worked up about anything that is posted on here. Best of luck to everyone.

[bonecrusher99]

Anyone get an HSS email saying "ranked to match" or "ranked"?

[orthoguy123]

If you want to remain anonymous, please feel free to PM me your updates and I will post them for you.

[tigerbalm]

Two missed calls from the PD of a program near the bottom of my list. He called at the same time last Thursday and Friday night, and didn't leave a message both times. I looked up the number to confirm that it was the PD. I legitimately missed his call both times, but in retrospect realized it would have been awkward conversation. Any advantage in calling the PD back? Anyone think it strange that he didn't at least leave a brief message identifying himself?