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Add "Interests" category to your CV??

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Postby ItsOKImaLimoDriver » Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:19 am

Don't think too much about what your putting in your interests. Just put what you are really interested in, but make sure you know what your talking about regarding those things because you will be asked. I had one interview with a PD and I didn't really think he was vibing me, until he read my interests and saw I liked camping; he happened to be crazy about outdoors stuff and we talked the rest of the time about that. At one interview (where I matched), the PD just talked to me about what movies I had seen recently the majority of the time bc I listed movies as an interest. Just be honest and don't look like your trying to stand out when listing your interests because they will ask you about them and you will look stupid if you were just trying to list unique things to talk about.
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Postby KneeMD » Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:11 am

kdburton wrote:I'm relaxed - trust me... Theres no harm in thinking through the intricacies that may make a difference in the end, especially when I have the time do it it like right now. I went to business school before medical school and we had entire courses devoted to preparing a resume that "jumps out" and ways to impress interviewers with the limited time you get in an interview. I gurantee the same type of thing will apply for residency interviews. I'm sure you've read articles about the same thing written by two different authors and realized that one author somehow was able to engage you much better than the other. Well the same thing goes for your CV and your personal statement. I'm just asking for people to reply if they found any creative ways to beef up the non-academic portion of their CV which ended up working in their favor, so if you don't have anything constructive to add to the conversation then don't reply to the thread


Whoa. My advice: Don't come off in your interviews like you are coming off in this thread...and I don't care that it's "your" thread. Good luck.
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Postby thatswhatshesaid » Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:48 am

The format of the CV is dictated by the application software. So, just write in a semi-readable description of your interest and move on to the next step on ERAS.
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On a side note (this is not directed at anyone in particular); There are some folks here on orthogate that come off as loud-mouthed blow-hards that are extremely fond of themselves. I chalked it up to people being different on web forums and concluded that there is no way in hell they actually interact with other adults in person the way they do on the internet. However, after meeting a few of these people at interviews and realizing that a few are my classmates, I stand corrected.

I wonder if there is a section on the match outcomes that describes the match rate of people with various personality disorders.
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Postby kdburton » Sun Mar 28, 2010 4:32 pm

thatswhatshesaid wrote:The format of the CV is dictated by the application software. So, just write in a semi-readable description of your interest and move on to the next step on ERAS.


I understand. I guess I was under the impression that we upload a .doc/.pdf of our CT ERAS. But it sounds more like how we filled in everything in individual boxes when applying for medical school a few years ago. Thanks for the info

thatswhatshesaid wrote:On a side note (this is not directed at anyone in particular); There are some folks here on orthogate that come off as loud-mouthed blow-hards that are extremely fond of themselves. I chalked it up to people being different on web forums and concluded that there is no way in hell they actually interact with other adults in person the way they do on the internet. However, after meeting a few of these people at interviews and realizing that a few are my classmates, I stand corrected.

I wonder if there is a section on the match outcomes that describes the match rate of people with various personality disorders.


Assuming you're making this comment based on how a couple people responded to my posts on this thread... Yes I can understand this as I've come across the same thing with fellow classmates on another medical student forum. I think if you looked at my posting history I've only asked questions and offered advice to people rather than trying to start some flame war. To be honest with you I don't understand why the last person who replied to my post did so in that way - maybe becuase you can't hear the tone of voice on an internet forum. I never claimed this as "my" forum, all I asked was for people to reply if they had an answer to my question or some constructive criticism. For those of you who have responded to my questions (and others'), thank you.
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Postby thatswhatshesaid » Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:53 pm

Yup. The CV portion is really bland, however ,it allows the folks reading them to zip through to the stuff they're interested in.

The good news is that you can put whatever you want there and that essentially allows you to spend 80% of the interview talking about something you love. I found, on my interviews, that they seemed to match me up with attendings and residents who had similar interests.
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Postby strbck15 » Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:31 am

Another thing... i heard of a ton of applicants put "cooking" as an interest. That's great if you're like a culinary artist, but if you cook for subsistence and they ask you, "so what do you like to cook?"

So I guess I shouldn't share that I make some of the best cereal in the country :(.


So residents, do you actually get any time to enjoy your outside interests during residency. That's what I'm most worried about. I'll be an unhappy intern if I only have time to work out once a month.
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Postby Iliizarovian » Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:33 pm

as per some of my other posts, I would be careful about what you post on your CV. Yes, you shouldn't over analyze things and such, but at the same time, be careful. You should pick hobbies/interests that you have that would fit in well with most of the ortho crowd. This is how they will remember you, because it is usually the only interesting thing on someones application, because they have seen it all.

For instance (and this is a huge hypothetical) say one of your interests was "Going to strip clubs".

This may be something you truly enjoy. In fact, it maybe something that many orthopods may enjoy.

But, I'm sure everyone would agree, that's not a good interest to put down. Why? Well, that's up to you why, but this is an unambiguous situation.

Now, for instance, last year (when I didn't match,) I put down surfing. Almost everyone on my interviews asked me about that. Now, I'm sure a few of them truly were interested, and thought it was different, but at the same time, how many ortho programs do you know of that are in close proximity to surfing? Very, very few. So naturally, they thought, and they asked, "Why do you want to come here...if there is no surfing?" Sure, you may have a killer answer to reply with, but that initial impression will not be changed in their eyes. In the end, it may make the difference between one or two ranks, which can make all the world of a difference. I know, sounds melodramatic, but seriously, this is important.

They could have also decided that it was a negative thing that I was a surfer. Why? Because in the past suring was not considered a real sport, but a hobby for the lazy 'california dudes' or some bogus thing like that.

Nevertheless, you can see how something can very easily be turned against you or used to bump you down a few ranks. Several attendings have agreed with me on this, and recommended that I do not put that down on my CV.

Trust me on this one! Sometimes I truly feel the reason I didn't match the first time was because of this, I really do.
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Postby darkshooter326 » Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:01 am

I was wondering more generally what format to put my CV in. I am applying for aways right now and am not sure what to keep on there. I can't search "CV" because it is only 2 characters :-/

How much undergrad stuff do we include? I guess Med school grades and Step 1 should be on the CV? and also any research projects, etc.

Any help is appreciated!
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Postby strbck15 » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:26 am

darkshooter326 wrote:I was wondering more generally what format to put my CV in. I am applying for aways right now and am not sure what to keep on there. I can't search "CV" because it is only 2 characters :-/

How much undergrad stuff do we include? I guess Med school grades and Step 1 should be on the CV? and also any research projects, etc.

Any help is appreciated!




Try searching for curriculum vitae, what cv stands for.
I included little undergrad and I've never seen anyone put their med school grades. I would think that would be more of what a transcript is for. A CV is more like an extended resume, not a transcript.
You can chose to put USMLE score on it.
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Postby Iliizarovian » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:28 am

You can put your usmle score in your CV, but I wouldn't put it on your ERAS CV, that's automatically there as is.

However, if you're showing someone (ie a letter writer or your dept chair) a CV to talk about your chances of getting in, I would put it on there.

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